I just listened to this podcast and really enjoyed it, so I figured I'd share on here.
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/slate/the-moment-with-brian-koppelman/e/52902707
Amidst the constant noise and chaos and irrational anger of political conversation, this was refreshing to hear. I stay away from politics and tend to dislike both sides of the insanity, but I do enjoy when people just discuss things calmly and are willing to listen and learn and agree/disagree.